Antique Roses

When I first developed an interest in roses, these were simply called old fashioned. That is the name I always used, and it comes naturally to me to refer to something like a damask or alba as old fashioned rather than antique. But times change, and now they are offically Antique. Though for me, they are still (and always will be “old fashioned. perhaps it’s me that fits that description šŸ˜‰

Remember This Date: 1867

Antique, old fashioned, heritage, heirloom, Old Garden roses. Call these what you will, they are all the same… roses bred or in existence prior toĀ 1867. Why that date? because that was when the very first ‘modern rose’ was released, the Hybrid TeaĀ La France.

The only trouble with such a precise date is that you then technically shouldn’t call a rose bred in 1868 an Antique, even if it is part of a family that goes back before that date. Some of the Moss roses for example were being bred right up to 1880, but they shouldn’t be classified as “modern roses” just because they happened to be created a couple of years too late.

An example of this, is an old Moss rose calledĀ “Soupert et Notting”. There is a photo of that further down the page. This was bred in 1874 so I suppose it meets the criteria of being called a modern rose. But I refuse to do so šŸ˜‰ Speaking of Moss roses, have you ever noticed how most of them have French names? The French were very passionate about a lot of things back then (they had finished cutting of aristocrats heads about 80 years previously) and they contributed greatly to the popularity of roses. Viva la France!

The Moss rose, Soupert et Notting
The Moss rose, Soupert et Notting

Making Sense of Rose Classifications

It’s confusing for anyone other than fulltime rosarians… how exactly are roses classified? Here is the beginners guide to rose classification.

First, let’s remember that important date, 1867.

  • Rose types (or classes) prior to 1867 are classed asĀ Old Garden Roses.
  • Roses after that date are defined asĀ Modern Roses.

So far, so good. Within that broad definition of Old Garden , we have theĀ classes. Gallica, Alba, Damask and so on. And within that, the differentĀ varieties. And in the modern roses, it’s exactly the same thing. We have the various classes such as Hybrid Tea. Anything in the definition of Modern Roses that cannot be placed into a type can be classed as a shrub rose. This is really a catch all for those roses that simply will not fit into a type.

An example of that is David Austins English Roses. It’s a complex subject, and this guide only gives the very basics.